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How Christians And Conservatives Are Helping To Destroy America

November 23, 2014

What makes America America? What distinguishes this country from the nations of the world–or from world history, for that matter? Even casual historians must admit that there has never been a country like the United States of America ever to exist. This nation is unique to world history. There has never been a country like this–and probably will never be one like it again.

As hard as it is for the anti-God types to admit, America has a deeply-rooted Christian history and culture. However, when one says, “America is a Christian country,” (usually spoken by a Christian, of course), he or she may mean something that NEVER existed. So, let’s set the record straight: America was never founded as a theocracy. And even though there are some well-meaning, albeit naïve, Christian people today who pretend that America once had, and should have again, a theocratic-type government and society, the fact is, America was NEVER a theocracy.

The only theocracy in the history of the world was Old Testament Israel under Moses. After the death of Moses, God expected Israel to be governed by the principles established through Moses. Even the reign of Israel’s greatest king, King David, could not be classified as a theocracy. He, too, was expected to adhere to the tenets and principles of Moses. Only through Moses did God directly govern the people. And even within the government of Israel, God established the roots of what became known as republican (small “r”) government. But I will save that discussion for a later day.

So, if by “Christian nation” people mean that America was established as some sort of theocracy, they are gravely mistaken. It is also unfortunate that some well-meaning (at least, I think they are well-meaning) Christian people give the unchurched world the impression that they are trying to create some sort of theocracy in America today. Some even go so far as to teach that we don’t need a Constitution or State and municipal laws–and any such laws are themselves evil. This is an asinine philosophy, to say the least.

I, for one, would never want a so-called theocracy administered by the likes of the vast majority of Christian teachers and pastors today. Are you kidding? Most of them can’t even govern a small congregation of believers who are ostensibly assembled under the same ideology, same eschatology, same ecclesiology, etc. Have you been to a church business meeting lately? You really want those people dictating national laws? God forbid!

No! There is no Moses on the scene today with new revelation dictating God’s will for the nation. That being said, there is no mistaking the fact that America has a deeply-rooted, rich Christian tradition.

America’s founders, even those who were not professing Christians, as we understand the term today, acknowledged that fact.

Benjamin Franklin wrote a pamphlet called, “Information to Those Who Would Remove to America.” It was intended to be a guide for Europeans who were thinking about relocating to this country. In it, he said, “Hence, bad examples to youth are more rare in America, which must be comfortable consideration to parents. To this may be truly added, that serious religion, under its various denominations, is not only tolerated, but respected and practiced.”

Franklin continued, “Atheism is unknown there; infidelity rare and secret; so that persons may live to a great age in that country without having their piety shocked by meeting with either an Atheist or an Infidel.”

Franklin went on: “And the Divine Being seems to have manifested his approbation of the mutual forbearance and kindness with which the different sects [Christian denominations] treat each other; by the remarkable prosperity with which he has been pleased to favor the whole country.”

Noah Webster (himself an outspoken Christian, of course), said, “The religion which has introduced civil liberty is the religion of Christ and His apostles, which enjoins humility, piety, and benevolence; which acknowledges in every person a brother, or a sister, and a citizen with equal rights. This is genuine Christianity, and to this we owe our free Constitutions of Government.”

Webster also said, “When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God. The preservation of a republican government depends on the faithful discharge of this duty.”

Notice, Webster did not say we should vote for “Christians.” He said we should vote for “just men who will rule in the fear of God.” That is the correct model set forth in both Natural and Revealed Law. Today, most Christians have never been taught this rudimentary truism.

Daniel Webster noted the following: “Finally, let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers were brought hither by their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate its principles with the elements of their society, and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political, or literary.”

There is the correct understanding of America as a “Christian” nation. America’s founders never thought they were creating a theocracy, but they did have a “high veneration” for the Christian faith and “sought to incorporate its principles” into American government.

The principles of the Christian faith include both Natural and Revealed Law. The Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights, especially, clearly illustrate the founder’s understanding and appreciation for these principles.

The Declaration begins, “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which THE LAWS OF NATURE AND OF NATURE’S GOD [emphasis added] entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the cause which impel them to the separation.

“We hold these truths to be SELF-EVIDENT [emphasis added], that all men are CREATED [emphasis added] equal, that they are endowed BY THEIR CREATOR [emphasis added] with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

As Thomas Jefferson quickly penned the Declaration (and he did write it rather quickly), he was borrowing heavily from John Locke and the commonly understood principles of Natural Law. Though the founders were dissimilar in regards to their understanding of Biblical teaching, to a man, they understood and agreed with the “self-evident” principles of Natural Law, or “the Laws of Nature.”

Furthermore, virtually every “right” enumerated in the Bill of Rights can be traced directly to commonly understood principles contained in Natural and Revealed Law. That fact is unassailable.

In addition to our common Christian heritage, America was united with a common language, along with a common culture and history. The loss of our Christian heritage, our common language, along with our common culture and history would certainly transform America into something other than America.

Unfortunately, however, there are those who share our common faith and history who are also contributing mightily to the destruction of America. I am talking about those who would identify themselves as Christians and/or conservatives. Of course, to hear these people talk, America’s problems are all caused by “liberals,” or Democrats. They would also single out drug-dealers (except they always seem to leave out certain politicians who are the true drug lords in America), pornographers, Hollywood entertainers (not all of whom are immoral reprobates, of course), and similar sorts, as being the cause of America’s destruction.

There is absolutely no question that a national breakdown of morality is seriously problematic to the survival of a free republic. No doubt about it! My only contention on this point is that the groups mentioned above are not the true problem; they are only symptomatic of the true problem. The real problem is the CHURCH. A soft, uncommitted, carnal, materialistic, lazy, self-righteous church is the root cause of ALL of America’s problems, including the ones mentioned above.

Too many of today’s churches are thoroughly consumed with self-righteousness and self-centeredness. They either try to mimic the world and by doing so become just like the world, or they think themselves better than the world and by doing so become worse than the world.

Phariseeism is a major problem today. Have you ever noticed that you seldom, if ever, hear a message about Christ and the Pharisees? Why is that? It’s because a study of the subject will reveal that too many church leaders are nothing more than modern-day Pharisees in practice. It’s a lesson that hits uncomfortably close to home.

Okay. Let me toot my own horn here. I have a DVD with three messages on the subject, “Christ And The Pharisees” available. And, seriously, when is the last time you ever heard the subject mentioned from anybody’s pulpit? I submit that one CANNOT possibly understand the ministry and teachings of Christ if one does not understand the contentious contest that took place between Christ and the Pharisees. If you would like to purchase this three-message series on ONE DVD, go here:

The spirit of Phariseeism is so prevalent among the Church today that is no wonder why so many unbelievers refuse to darken the doors of a church. Many of today’s Christians are as enslaved to the traditions and doctrines of men as any slave anywhere. How in the name of common sense can one expect Christians to fight for the political liberties of our country when they, themselves, are enslaved to the machinations of modern-day Pharisees?

Some of the most enslaved people on the planet are professing Christians. Many of our churches, Christian schools, colleges, seminaries, etc. are filled with the “servants of men.” The fact that our public education system fails to teach children to think critically is only matched by too many of today’s churches and Christian schools.

Not only do so many Christians have a slave mentality; they also have a war mentality. Who are the ones who are the first and loudest cheerleaders for perpetual wars of aggression in the Middle East? Christians and conservatives! But why should that surprise us? Look at our churches. What do you see? Perpetual war: infighting, gossip, slander, backbiting, name-calling, character assassination, etc. Some of the most mean-spirited, low-down, dishonest, conniving, and blood-thirsty people on the planet call themselves Christians. Believe me, if they could get away with it, there is no telling how many people in our country would be losing their heads at the hands of these pious-talking Christians. Hatred and bitterness is nothing more than murder of the heart; and millions of professing Christians are as guilty as can be.

Speaking of losing one’s head, the anti-Muslim bias and hysteria being evidenced in most churches today is absolutely alarming! In the mistaken notion that somehow it is God’s will that the American army be used as some sort of holy crusade against Islamic states, Christians are spearheading a perpetual war doctrine that has become the bane of freedom within our own country.

In the name of fighting a “war on terror,” America is being turned into a giant Police State–and Christians seem to be among its most ardent supporters. But Washington, D.C., is not fighting a “war on terror,” it is fighting a “war on liberty.” Our Bill of Rights is being decimated! We are living under an Orwellian surveillance society, the likes of which Hitler and Stalin could have only dreamed about. And, again, Christians and conservatives are among the loudest proponents.

Now that the GOP has control of both houses of Congress in Washington, D.C., and with a pro-war Democrat in the White House, we can expect an escalation of foreign wars during the next two years analogous to those of the G.W. Bush years. And, unfortunately, most of the Christian war fever seems to be predicated on the erroneous John Hagee theology that modern-Israel is Bible-Israel and, somehow, it is America’s responsibility to fight all of Israel’s wars.

The war fever demonstrated by too many Christians and conservatives is destroying our country. Endless wars abroad; hundreds of thousands of innocents killed–many of whom are our Christian brothers and sisters; trillions of dollars of deficit spending to fund these perpetual, unconstitutional wars of aggression; a burgeoning Police State at home under the rubric of “we are at war”; ad infinitum.

Worse still is the way Christian war fever has turned the nations of the world, not only against America, but against Christianity. How are our missionaries supposed to take the message of the Prince of Peace to a people whom we have just bombed into the Stone Age, killing their parents, children, brothers and sisters, etc.?

Since 1980, the United States has invaded, occupied, or bombed fourteen Islamic countries. Fourteen! But the pro-war politicians in D.C. keep telling the American people the reason that Muslims hate us is because of our freedom. What a crock! Some of us can remember when some of the best friends this country had were Islamic states in the Middle East. A meddling, intrusive, arrogant, war spirit in Washington, D.C., has turned people who were once friendly to the United States into some of our most fierce adversaries. And all Christians and conservatives can do is demand more and more war.

See this report:

And, as it appears right now, the only major prospective presidential candidate on the scene from either major party who is not marching in lock step with the war machine is Rand Paul. And you can bet that the military industrial complex, along with the military religious complex, will try to crucify Rand in the same way they crucified his dad, Ron Paul.

The assault against the United States is massive. We are fast losing our Christian heritage and culture–and Christians are as much to blame as anyone. They have tried to turn the Lord’s Church into a playground or entertainment center–or even worse, a corporation. Phariseeism is rampant. As a result, unbelievers have lost all respect for churches in general. I, for one, don’t blame them.

We have lost our understanding of, and appreciation for, Natural Law. Even most pastors cannot articulate the fundamental principles of Natural Law, even though this is the Law upon which America was founded. This means, we have lost the true meaning of America’s Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights.

We cheer as our country has turned into a “Warfare State.” We applaud as our nation has turned into an Orwellian surveillance society. We are losing our common language, our common history and heritage, and our common faith. Christianity in 2014-15 is not even comparable to Christianity in 1775-76. We have traded Jonas Clark for Joel Osteen.

Yes, the very people who claim to love America the most and who claim to be interested in her blessing and prosperity are too often the very ones who are helping to destroy her.


Chuck Baldwin is a regular columnist for Veracity Voice

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  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    As well intended as I’m confident Pastor Chuck Baldwin, I cannot in good conscience let this article stand unchallenged. In fact, to do a proper job I’ll divided this into several responses:

    Pastor Baldwin: “What makes America America? What distinguishes this country from the nations of the world–or from world history, for that matter? Even casual historians must admit that there has never been a country like the United States of America ever to exist. This nation is unique to world history. There has never been a country like this–and probably will never be one like it again.”

    America’s greatness is equivalent to God’s blessings upon her. So why was America blessed? Deuteronomy 28 reveals that nations are blessed.
    when they are obedience to Yahweh’s moral law. Consequently, America’s
    greatness came as result of, NOT the late 1700 government of, by, and for the people, based upon Enlightenment and Masonic concepts, but the 1600 governments of, by, and for God, based upon His immutable moral law.

    In addition to Deuteronomy 28:1-14, see also Deuteronomy 4:5-8, Psalm 19:7-11, etc.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Chuck Baldwin: “As hard as it is for the anti-God types to admit, America has a deeply-rooted Christian history and culture. However, when one says, “America is a Christian country,” (usually spoken by a Christian, of course), he or she may mean something that NEVER existed. So, let’s set the record straight: America was never founded as a theocracy. And even though there are some well-meaning, albeit naïve, Christian people today who pretend that America once had, and should have again, a theocratic-type government and society, the fact is, America was NEVER a
    theocracy.”

    Had Pastor Baldwin intended it to be so, this couldn’t be more incorrect, and for two reasons. First, if we’re to believe men such as Alexis de Tocqueville and William McGuffey, America (or at least portions thereof) was a Biblical theocracy:

    “…John Clark Ridpath, History of the United States, 1874; ‘In June of 1639 the leading men of New Haven held a convention in a barn, and formally adopted the Bible as the constitution of the State. Everything was strictly conformed to the religious standard. The government was called the House of Wisdom…. None but church members were admitted to the rights of citizenship.’21

    “…Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America, 1835; ‘They exercised the rights of sovereignty; they named their magistrates, concluded peace or declared war, made police regulations, and enacted laws as if their allegiance was due only to God. Nothing can be more curious and, at the same time more instructive, than the legislation of that period; it is there that the solution of the great social problem which the United States now
    presents to the world is to be found [in perfect fulfillment of Deuteronomy
    4:5-8].

    ‘Amongst these documents we shall notice, as especially characteristic, the code of laws promulgated by the little State of Connecticut in 1650. The legislators of Connecticut begin with the penal laws, and … they borrow their provisions from the text of Holy Writ … copied verbatim from the books of Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy….’23

    “America was exalted in the eyes of the world because of her applied righteousness, embodied in Yahweh’s perfect law. Since 1788, when the
    United States of America, as a nation, stopped following Yahweh’s laws and began following the laws of WE THE PEOPLE, our legislation has ceased providing righteous instruction to others. Instead, the rest of the world now holds America in disdain. If America hopes to regain her favored status in the eyes of the world, she must return to her original Constitution.

    “McGuffey’s Eclectic Reader, America’s most popular school book in the 1800s, also testified to America’s early form of theocratic government:

    ‘Their form of government was as strictly theocratical insomuch that it would be difficult to say where there was any civil authority among them distinct from ecclesiastical jurisdiction. Whenever a few of them settled a town, they immediately gathered themselves into a church; and their elders were magistrates, and their code of laws was the Pentateuch…. God was their King; and they regarded him as truly and literally so….’24

    “William McGuffey was undoubtedly influenced by the writings of renowned early American preachers such as John Cotton:

    ‘The famous John Cotton, the first minister of Boston … earnestly pleaded “that the government might be considered as a theocracy, wherein the Lord was judge, lawgiver and king; that the laws which He gave Israel might be adopted….” At the desire of the court, he compiled a system of laws founded chiefly on the laws of Moses….’25

    For more, see online Chapter 3 “The Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE vs. YAHWEH” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitutuion: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt3.html.

    The second reason Pastor Baldwin is because all governments are theocracies.

    When one understands that the principal means by which we keep theFirst Commandment is by observing Yahweh’s other moral laws and that idolatry is not so much about statues as it is statutes, it becomes clear that all governments are theocratic, serving either the true God or some false god, demonstrated by what laws they keep and consider the supreme law of the land.

    Furthermore, all non-existent false gods (1Corinthians 8:4-6) always have been and always will represent we the people in one form or another. See our blog article “Could You be a Disciple of Baal and Not Know It?” at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/could-you-be-a-disciple-of-baal-and-not-know-it/.

    “…There is no escaping theocracy. A government’s laws reflect its morality, and the source of that morality (or, more often than not, immorality) is its god. It is never a question of theocracy or no theocracy, but whose theocracy. The American people, by way of their elected officials, are the source of the Constitutional Republic’s laws. Therefore, the Constitutional Republic’s god is WE THE PEOPLE.

    “People recoil at the idea of a theocracy’s morality being forced upon them, but because all governments are theocracies, someone’s morality is always being enforced. This is an inevitability of government. The question is which god, theocracy, laws, and morality will we choose to live under?…”

    Also excerpted from Chapter 3 “The Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE vs.
    YAHWEH.”

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Chuck Baldwin: “After the death of Moses, God expected Israel to be governed by the principles established through Moses. Even the reign of Israel’s greatest king, King David, could not be classified as a theocracy. He, too, was expected to adhere to the tenets and principles of Moses. Only through Moses did God directly govern the people. And even within the government of Israel, God established the roots of what became known as republican (small “r”) government….”

    Are Republics REALLY that much different from Democracies?

    “…Constitutionalists insist the United States government is a republic, not a democracy, but they never stop to consider that the two are virtually the same regarding sovereignty.

    “Christian Constitutionalists further insist republics are Biblical. However, because republics (like democracies) rely upon the majority vote of the people for the selection of their leaders, rather than upon Yahweh’s choice (as per Deuteronomy 17:15), republics are not anymore Biblical than are
    democracies. Both democracies and republics culminate in a government of, by, and for the people rather than a government of, by, and for Yahweh. The same is true with other issues voted upon by the people: ultimately the majority’s will is exalted over the Yahweh’s will.

    “As demonstrated in Chapter 3, both republican and Christian governments are ultimately theocracies. As a result, they are incompatible and hostile to each other. A republic looks to the people as its sovereign; a Christian theocracy looks to Yahweh. The very definition of a sovereign, or supreme ruler, excludes simultaneous sovereigns….”

    For more, see online Chapter 7 “Article 4: Republic vs. Theocracy” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt7.html

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “It is also unfortunate that some well-meaning (at least, I think they are well-meaning) Christian people give the unchurched world the impression that they are trying to create some sort of theocracy in America today. Some even go so far as to teach that we don’t need a Constitution or State and municipal laws–and any such laws are themselves evil.

    Such laws are evil only if they violate Yahweh’s moral triune law (His commandments, statutes, and judgments). This is the standard by which everything (including the U.S. Constitution) must be ethically examined.

    When the Constitution is actually examined by this standard, it’s found to be anything but Biblically compatible. In fact, there is hardly an Article or Amendment that is not antithetical, if not seditious, to Yahweh’s sovereignty and morality. For evidence, see free online book “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective,” in which every Article and Amendment is examined by the Bible, at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/blvc-index.html.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “I, for one, would never want a so-called theocracy administered by the likes of the vast majority of Christian teachers and pastors today. Are you kidding? Most of them can’t even govern a small congregation of believers who are ostensibly assembled under the same ideology, same eschatology, same ecclesiology, etc. Have you been to a church business meeting lately? You really want those people dictating national laws? God forbid!

    So it would seem Pastor Baldwin prefers a government administered by unregenerate men employing their own fickle finite “laws” (Matthew 15:6-9) as the standard for society over regenerate men employing Yahweh’s perfect law and altogether righteous judgments (Psalm 19:7-11).

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “No! There is no Moses on the scene today with new revelation dictating God’s will for the nation.”

    We don’t need a Moses today. God has already provided His moral law to us. Instead, what we need are biblically qualified judges who will implement and adjudicate Yahweh’s law instead of their own (Exodus 18:21, etc.)

    Pastor Baldwin: “That being said, there is no mistaking the fact that America has a deeply-rooted, rich Christian tradition.”

    Indeed! A 1600 American Christian tradition. But that all changed when the constitutional framers rejected Yahweh’s law for their own Enlightenment and Masonic concepts.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: ‘America’s founders, even those who were not professing Christians, as we understand the term today, acknowledged that fact….”

    Pastor Baldwin has inadvertently highlighted one of at least two reasons why the Constitutional republic was doomed from its inception:

    ““Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and
    every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.” (Matthew 12:25)

    See also 2 Corinthians 6:14-18.

    Following is the second reason:

    “And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.” (Matthew 7:26-27)

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “Noah Webster (himself an outspoken Christian, of course), said, “The religion which has introduced civil liberty is the religion of Christ and His apostles, which enjoins humility, piety, and benevolence; which acknowledges in every person a brother, or a sister, and a citizen with equal rights. This is genuine Christianity, and to this we owe our free Constitutions of Government.”

    “The standard for determining whether the Constitution is biblical is not a bunch of dead men’s (often cherry-picked) quotations but instead the Word of God—particularly His immutable moral law:

    “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” (2 Timothy 3:16)

    Pastor Baldwin: “Webster also said, “When you become entitled to exercise the right of voting for public officers, let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers just men who will rule in the fear of God. The preservation of a republican government depends on the faithful discharge of this duty….”

    Although I appreciate Webster’s sentiments, God never entitled man to vote for anyone. The framers usurped the biblical election process by which we end up with the best of the best of two or more Biblically qualified candidates, every single time. They replaced it with their own popular elections (a popularity contest, what really amounts to a shell game) that, thanks to Article 6’s Christian test ban, can only provide the best of the
    worst, at best.

    See blog article “Salvation by Election” at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/salvation-by-election/.
    (Don’t be fooled by the title. This is about Constitutional elections vs. Biblical elections.)

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “The principles of the Christian faith include both Natural and Revealed Law. The Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights, especially, clearly illustrate the founder’s understanding and appreciation for these principles.”

    The standard is Yahweh’s morality as codified in revealed law NOT some undefined natural law. By the standard, the Constitution is found to be biblicallly seditious and is the reason why America finds herself teetering on the precipice of moral depravity and destruction:

    “…3. Every problem America faces today can be traced back to the fact that the framers failed to expressly establish a government upon Yahweh’s
    immutable morality as codified in His commandments, statutes, and judgments. (Would infanticide and sodomy be tolerated, let alone financed by the government, if Yahweh’s perfect law and altogether righteous judgments were the law of the land? Would Islam be a looming threat to our peace and security if the First Amendment had been replaced with the First Commandment? Would Americans be in nearly as much debt if usury had been outlawed as a form of theft? Would crime be as rampant if “cruel and unusual punishment” had not been outlawed and criminals were instead punished with Yahweh’s altogether righteous judgments? Would we be on the fiscal cliff if we were taxed with a flat increase tax rather than a graduated income tax?)….”

    For more, see our Featured Blog Article “5 Reasons the Constitution
    is Our Cutting-Edge Issue” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “The Declaration begins, “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which THE LAWS OF NATURE AND OF NATURE’S GOD [emphasis added] entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the cause which impel them to the separation.

    “We hold these truths to be SELF-EVIDENT [emphasis added], that all men are CREATED [emphasis added] equal, that they are endowed BY THEIR CREATOR [emphasis added] with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    The generic “nature’s god” and “creator” of the Masons and Enlightenment boys was not the God of the Bible. Thomas Jefferson, who cut the virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, and ascension of Christ – what he described as a “dunghill” – out of his cut-and-paste New Testament,* was the chief architect of the Declaration.

    Be very careful who and what you support:

    “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your [personal, State, White, Senate, and] house [of Representatives], neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” (2 John 1:7-11)

    *Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, 24 January 1814, Lester J. Cappon, ed., The Adams-Jefferson Letters: The Complete Correspondence Between Thomas Jefferson and Abigail and John Adams (Williamsburg, VA: Institute of Early American History and Culture, 1988) p. 384.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “As Thomas Jefferson quickly penned the Declaration (and he did write it rather quickly), he was borrowing heavily from John Locke and the commonly understood principles of Natural Law. Though the founders were dissimilar in regards to their understanding of Biblical teaching, to a man, they understood and agreed with the “self-evident” principles of Natural Law, or “the Laws of Nature.”

    This speaks volumes to the Enlightenment influence upon the founders. For more regarding the late 1700 founders’ religious persuasions, see
    Dr. Albert Mohler’s interview with Dr. Gregg Frazer at http://www.albertmohler.com/2012/09/10/what-did-americas-founders-really-believe-a-conversation-with-historian-gregg-frazer-transcript/.

    Dr. Frazer proves from the key founders’ own writings that they were neither Deists in the purest sense of the word, nor were they Christians in the Biblical sense of the word. Instead, they were Theistic Rationalists.

    Dr. Mohler is President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Dr. Frazer is Professor of History of the Master’s College in California.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “Furthermore, virtually every “right” enumerated in the Bill of Rights can be traced directly to commonly understood principles contained in Natural and Revealed Law. That fact is unassailable.

    America was sold down the river when the late 1700 founders replaced God-expected Biblical responsibilities for optional Enlightenment rights,
    which are easily controlled by whatever government happens to be in power at the time. One need look no further than the Amendment with the wording “shall not be infringed.” The Second Amendment is the most infringed, licensed, and limited Amendment of the entire twenty seven. Furthermore, a future generation of our posterity are likely to see the Second Amendment completely whittled away or repealed altogether. This
    is inherent nature and danger of optional rights.

    Although the Second Amendment is the closest thing to being biblical in the Constitution, the framers robbed it of its potency when they made bearing arms in defense of ourselves, our families, and neighbors an optional right rather than a God-expected responsibility:

    “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house [including spiritual and physical protection], he hath denied the
    faith, and is worse than an infidel.” (1 Timothy 5:8)

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “Phariseeism is a major problem today…. The spirit of Phariseeism is so prevalent among the Church today that is no wonder why so many unbelievers refuse to darken the doors of a church. Many of today’s Christians are as enslaved to the traditions and doctrines of men as any slave anywhere….”

    This hits the proverbial nail on the head:

    “…The framers were fully cognizant of the word “supreme” and its meaning when they declared the supremacy of the Constitution. In so doing, they made the law of Yahweh subservient to the law of WE THE PEOPLE.

    ‘Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.’ (Matthew 15:6-9)

    “The framers, and today’s political leaders and Constitutionalists pay homage to the traditions and commandments of men as the supreme law of the land. Even the Pharisees of Jesus’ day weren’t so brazen as to call their man-made traditions supreme….”

    For more, see online Chapter 9 “Article 6: The Supreme Law of the Land” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt9.html.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Pastor Baldwin: “The assault against the United States is massive. We are fast losing our Christian heritage and culture–and Christians are as much to blame as anyone….”

    I couldn’t agree more. This is predominantly being accomplished by those who are trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear—that is the biblically seditious Constitution into a Christian document—when instead it is the principal reason America has lost her Christian heritage on a national scale.

    Pastor Baldwin: “We cheer as our country has turned into a “Warfare State.” We applaud as our nation has turned into an Orwellian surveillance society. We are losing our common language, our common history and heritage, and our common faith. Christianity in 2014-15 is not even comparable to Christianity in 1775-76….”

    And far less to our true 1600 Christian forbears’ Christianity. See blog article “375 Years Later: Constitution vs. Constitution” at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/375-years-later-constitution-vs-constitution/.

    • Watchman on the Wall

      This is all a little much, don’t you think, Ted?

      The bottom line is that ALL forms of organized religion are, and always have been, ruled by demon spirits and exist principally to deceive non-elect spiritual goats bound for hell into believing that they are God’s born agin elect, spiritual sheep bound for glory and a new heaven and a new earth with God. We both know this. It is an abomination to YHWH who will not be mocked. The harlot church of all forms of organized religion has been revealed and I hereby rebuke them all in the name of YHWH (Yahuwah) and Yahushua. May they all burn in eternal torment in the burning lake of fire and brimstone for misleading and deceiving so many.

      Judgment starts at the house of God and every pastor in America is guilty of being a con artist and a fraud. Some are more slick at sin than others, but the fact remains that every pastor is guilty of teaching lies to his (and sadly, sometimes her) flocks. What they teach and what the Bible says and means are so far removed from one another that the true teachings of God’s Word are seldom if ever taught and barely recognizable. This crime against humanity is an atrocity of unfathomable proportions and God is enraged by it, although He has permitted and orchestrated it to fulfill His perfect plan for His elect. Soon His wrath will come and put an end to this extortion and demonic con job once and for all.

      God has spoken. Let all the wicked of the earth tremble in fear at the coming wrath and fury of Almighty God! In two short years, His wrath will begin. Let the wise understand. The wicked never will. Daniel 12:10 tells us so.

  • Bob

    Amen Amen Amen Amein what Pastor Ted Weiland Said – Amen !

    Regarding the Slave / War Mentality it’s because Yahweh’s Laws, statutes, judgment are not in the minds/hearts of the people. The average Christian today who claims the name, does not know the bible in depth for what IT states and they read into the texts what they assume based on mans teaching of pitting Scripture against itself.

    • Watchman on the Wall

      If you knew YHWH and His Word as well as you claim to know them, why are you promoting a smokescreen and deceiving others as to the truth? You know and I know that none of this intellectual masturbation matters one whit in 2014. You and Ted Weiland are putting forth many words that have no substantive importance in these final days of the great tribulation in which we are now living. It’s all just an intentional distraction to deceive the naive and the gullible into believing that all is rosy and serene on the Titanic which has already hit the iceberg of the great tribulation and is listing badly. In a month we will be one day shy of 50% of the way through it.

      Such propaganda, smokescreens and lies will earn you eternal torment in the burning lake of fire and brimstone that is coming quite soon. God has warned you through His prophet. Fail to heed His warnings, and perish in your sins. You are playing with fire: eternal fire.

      • Bob

        When your doctrine falls in line with scripture, I’ll listen WATCHMAN wanna be.

        They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.

        • Watchman on the Wall

          Your “scripture” must be the Jewish Kaballah of the occult. As such, you will NEVER know that which is objectively true, because you are a son of the devil, the father of lies.

          You’re certifiably insane, aren’t you? You and 99% of the world’s population. Enjoy your strong delusion sent by God while it lasts.

          • Bob

            Psalms 119.78 Let the proud be ashamed; for they dealt perversely with me without a cause: but I will meditate in thy precepts.

  • Gregory Alan of Johnson

    All the stuff Pastor Baldwin states is the public side of the equation. Do you think for one second Ben Franklin talked anything Masonic to common folk? Absolutely not! That info was and still if reserved for those within that Order. Who do you think wrote the Founding docs? Members of the Masonic Order.

    Why do you think these Orders are known as “secret societies”? It certainly is not Yeshua upon which these Orders are spiritually founded, and there’s only one other spiritual authority, Satan.

    • Watchman on the Wall

      It is finally time to reveal and expose the unpleasant truth that America was founded on principles of humanism and Freemasonry and that the secret society of Freemasonry and the Illuminati, which is a secret society within Freemasonry, are rooted in the demonic and the practices of the occult. These secret societies are founded upon the teachings of the Pharisees and rabbis from the Babylonian Talmud and Zohar Kaballah of orthodox Judaism. In short, orthodox Judaism is satanic to its core.

      And as we all know, the impostor “jew” rules the world today through his control over the money supply and credit via demon spirit power over others, gained through their practice of the most vile forms of witchcraft and satanism. Thus, we can safely conclude that the impostor “jew” who is falsely promoted today (by the media and all forms of organized religion which they own and control) as “God’s chosen people,” is in truth, the Antichrist of end times Bible prophecy.

      Today (Nov. 26, 2014) we are nearly 50% of the way through the 1,290 day long great tribulation foretold in Daniel 12 and Matthew 24 for thousands of years. It will end on October 2, 2016. During the 45 days which follow that date, the prophecies of Matthew 24:29-31, followed by those of Revelation 19:7-9, will be fulfilled with hair-splitting accuracy. Shortly thereafter, the prophecies of Revelation 19:11-15, in the form of the judgments of Revelation chapters 8, 9, 15 and 16 will begin to be poured out upon the wicked of this earth who remain behind.

      How can we know? Because the eagles of Matthew 24:28 are already gathered. Multiple end times Bible prophecies have already been fulfilled with hair-splitting accuracy and the eagles are a metaphor for just this. The end times prophecies of Daniel 12:10, Matthew 24:15, 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and 2:10-12, and 2 Timothy 3:1-7 and 4:3-4 have now all been fulfilled. The second coming of Yahushua (which the carcass of Matthew 24:28 is a metaphor for) is less than two years away.

      This is why the truth concerning the true identity of the impostor “jews” as the Antichrist is being revealed now. Yahushua told us this would happen at the end of days and it now is:

      “Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.” Matthew 10:26-27

      In light of this vitally important reality, how important are these debates over history between pastors who knowingly or unknowingly are doing the devil’s work to deceive the masses and keep them on the highway to hell we are all born into? The answer is very simple: they are not important at all.

      Let the wise understand. God’s prophet has spoken.

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Once again, Chuck Baldwin speaks the unpleasant truth. But it’s even worse than he states it:

    All forms or organized religion are, and always have been, ruled by demon spirits. They all exist to deceive naive, lazy and gullible people who number among God’s non-elect spiritual goats into believing that they are God’s born again elect spiritual sheep. Nothing could be further from the truth! All forms of organized religion are filled with spiritually dead deceived people who have no clue what the Bible actually teaches because all but a handful of them have never read the Bible from cover to cover. As such, those professing to be Christians are that in name only.

    This is why Chuck is right: organized religion across America is a complete fraud in which spiritual goats surround themselves with teachers who tell them what their itching ears want to hear, in fulfillment of the end times prophecy at 2 Timothy 4:3-4 and 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Joel Osteen is a perfect example of this con job that so many are buying. The lies of: “You’re not supposed to judge anybody or anything,” “God loves everybody and has a wonderful plan for your life,” and “all you have to do is believe on Jesus and you’re saved” are hideous lies straight from the devil, the father of lies. Judgment begins at the house of God and God’s house has been turned into nothing more than the harlot church of Revelation 17 & 18: whore houses one and all!

    YHWH (God) will not be mocked, trifled with or conned. He sees it all and He is not deceived as to who are truly His, and who are not. In two short years, we will have passed the blessing date (of Daniel 12:12 and Revelation 19:9) and all of God’s true elect will have been gathered to Yahushua in the clouds and the wedding supper of the Lamb. Right after that happens, the proverbial $hit will hit the fan and the rest of the world’s population will become toast.

    God’s prophet has spoken. Let the wise understand.

  • KOIOTE

    your right about muslim bias. the Koran however, is just a spinoff from the jewish Talmud. both want Christians dead.

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